Oh, yes - he read them to me himself! (Mother laughs.)

But everything Sri Aurobindo said has always come true. You know he also said (but it was in jest, he didn't write it) ... concerning reuniting with Pakistan he told me: "Ten years. It will take ten years." The ten years passed and nothing happened - OFFICIALLY nothing happened. But the truth is (I learned it through certain government officials), Pakistan did make some overtures in that direction, asking for a union to be reestablished (they would have kept some sort of autonomy, but the two countries would have UNITED, it would have been a UNION), and Nehru refused.

How foolish!
So Sri Aurobindo had seen it.

He had seen it happen. After ten years, when that man who headed Pakistan died, [[This may refer to the death of Liaquat Ali, and the grave economic and political difficulties resulting in the dissolution of the Pakistani Parliament in October 1958, and General Ayub Khan's seizure of power. ]] they found themselves in grave difficulty and were unable to get organized; so they sent somebody (unofficially, of course) to ask India to reestablish union on certain bases - but they refused, the Indians refused. It was a repetition of the same stupidity as when Cripps came to make his proposal, when Sri Aurobindo sent a message saying, "Accept, whatever the conditions, otherwise it will be worse later on." That's what Sri Aurobindo told them. Gandhi was there and he retorted, "Why is that man meddling? He should be concerned only with spiritual life."[[In April 1942, when England was struggling against the Nazis and Japan, which was threatening to invade Burma and India, Churchill sent an emissary, Sir Stafford Cripps, to New Delhi with a very generous proposal which he hoped would rally India's goodwill and cooperation in the fight against the worldwide threat. In this proposal, Great Britain offered India Dominion status, as a first step towards an independent government. Sri Aurobindo at once came out of retirement to wire his adhesion to Cripps; he wired all of India's leaders, and even sent a personal messenger to Gandhi and the Indian Congress to convince them to accept this unhoped for proposal without delay. One of Sri Aurobindo's telegrams to Rajagopalachari (the future President of India) spoke of the grave danger, which no one seemed to see, of rejecting Cripps' proposal: "... Some immediate solution urgent face grave peril. Appeal to you to save India formidable danger new foreign domination when old on way to self-elimination." No one understood: "Why is he meddling?" Had it accepted Dominion status, India would have avoided the partition of the country in two, the artificial creation of Pakistan, as well as the three wars that were to follow (and which we haven't heard the last of), and the blood bath that ravaged Bengal and the Punjab in 1947 at the time of the partition. (See in Addendum an extract from Sri Aurobindo's message on the occasion of India's Independence.) ]]


They have conscientiously ruined the country.
Yes.

Yes, as much as they could. [[There is another side to the story. When Nehru died, Mother said in a message of May 27, 1964: "Nehru leaves his body but his soul is ONE with the Soul of India, that lives for Eternity." ]]

That's what X saw: that they have been the ruin of the country. And so he said, "These men have ruined the country and they shall be destroyed." That's what was in his head and that's why he is opening the door to this drama - which would mean a frightful destruction.

It's true that they deserve it! They have acted perfectly stupidly all along. Out of ambition, vanity, all sorts of things, but especially out of stupidity and total lack of understanding - a blind vision, reaching no farther than their noses.

Don't keep this. I don't want to keep political memories. I haven't said anything about the world situation for a long time, because I don't want people to know (it's not that I don't know, but I don't want it known). If I ever get involved in politics - if things take a positive turn, that is - I will start saying what I know in 1967. But not before.



page 420 , Mother's Agenda , volume 3 , 17th Nov. 1962


How are you? What's news?

Well, they've stopped fighting in the west....[[On the Kashmir and Rajasthan front, that is, the road to West Pakistan, the heart of the trouble. ]]

(Mother nods her head)

Which means it's not the end of the problem.
Again it won't be for this time.

It won't be done that way. I've seen how. It won't be done through a battle: the different parts of Pakistan will demand separation. There are five of them. And by separating, they'll join India -- to form a sort of confederation. That's how it will be done.

It will break up from within, yes, I see.
That's right. That's how it will be done.

page 334 , Mother's Agenda , December 18, 1971

"It is for the sake and the triumph of Truth that India is fighting and must fight [[ Interestingly, Mother had at first written shall fight, then, in the afternoon, she changed shall into must. ]] until India and Pakistan have once more become ONE because that is the truth of their being."

Page 247 , Mother's Agenda , volume 6 , Sept. 18, 1965